Turkey and ISIS support

par far wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

Kadmos45 wrote:

Mustafa wrote:
Kurds are not even 13% of our population.

That's gigantic number actually. Our entire muslim population (Tatars,Turks,Arabs,Kurds and whatnot) is between 0.01% and 0.02%. No that's not a typo. and we don't have any guerilla uprising here .

Mustafa wrote:
The turkmens will never, ever accept any government under Assad and most likely not even be part of a new "syrian" state.

You still don't get it. There will be no "turkmens" in Syria after the dust settles.

I agree, because we take the land and make it part of our own. Crimea style. But i must admit, your nazi ideology and imaginary genocide on 250.000 people amuses me. Russia couldn´t hold Ukraine but plans to hold syria. Pretty laughable when you think about it.

But thats just one point. No sunni will keep living under a kafir president any longer.

I told myself that I was not going to answer to a troll like but I just have to. On Crimea, Russia paid Ukraine to use it as a warm water port but after the Ukraine was destabilized, the NATO assholes were going to build bases there, a direct threat to Russia's security and the most important thing is Crimea was always Russian(most of population was Russian, spoke Russian). It is the Turks through out history that have committed genocide not Russians. Russia never wanted to hold onto Ukraine, it wanted Ukraine to be a neutral country(now the Zionists have destroyed Ukraine and it will slowly fall apart), Russia is already holding onto Syria, the foreign in backed terrorists are being killed and Assad position has become strong.

"No sunni will keep living under a kafir president any longer", this is a big lie and you son of a bitch know it, the president you asshole call "kafir" helped the Palestinians(mostly sunnis and Assad is Shia Alawite) ) by giving them houses, water, food, and an escape from Israel(this was why syria was attacked) and all religions lived in peace under Assad. Turkey, Saudia Arbia, Jordan are all sunni countries but they have not said a world about the crimes committed by Israel on Palestinians(mostly sunnis), Syria and IRan are the two countries that say anything about that, with Syria taking in  Palestinians. Turkey, Saudia Arbia, Jordan are just terrorists countries that follow orders from the Zionists and now Turkey is going to be the biggest losers when the Kurds take half of Turkey and that idiot Erdogan is responsible for everything.

You are just an asshole prompting west lies, sunni's have lived under Assad and they have lived under Assad and thrived under Assad. And there sunnis that are fighting for Assad. You are just an asshole and you country Turkey is going to be the biggest loser, when the dust settles.

Mustafa wrote: your nazi ideology and imaginary genocide on 250.000 people amuses me.

Mustafa wrote:
Russia couldn´t hold Ukraine but plans to hold syria. Pretty laughable when you think about it.

Mustafa wrote:
But thats just one point. No sunni will keep living under a kafir president any longer.

Mustafa wrote:

par far wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

Kadmos45 wrote:

Mustafa wrote:
Kurds are not even 13% of our population.

That's gigantic number actually. Our entire muslim population (Tatars,Turks,Arabs,Kurds and whatnot) is between 0.01% and 0.02%. No that's not a typo. and we don't have any guerilla uprising here .

Mustafa wrote:
The turkmens will never, ever accept any government under Assad and most likely not even be part of a new "syrian" state.

You still don't get it. There will be no "turkmens" in Syria after the dust settles.

I agree, because we take the land and make it part of our own. Crimea style. But i must admit, your nazi ideology and imaginary genocide on 250.000 people amuses me. Russia couldn´t hold Ukraine but plans to hold syria. Pretty laughable when you think about it.

But thats just one point. No sunni will keep living under a kafir president any longer.

I told myself that I was not going to answer to a troll like but I just have to. On Crimea, Russia paid Ukraine to use it as a warm water port but after the Ukraine was destabilized, the NATO assholes were going to build bases there, a direct threat to Russia's security and the most important thing is Crimea was always Russian(most of population was Russian, spoke Russian). It is the Turks through out history that have committed genocide not Russians. Russia never wanted to hold onto Ukraine, it wanted Ukraine to be a neutral country(now the Zionists have destroyed Ukraine and it will slowly fall apart), Russia is already holding onto Syria, the foreign in backed terrorists are being killed and Assad position has become strong.

"No sunni will keep living under a kafir president any longer", this is a big lie and you son of a bitch know it, the president you asshole call "kafir" helped the Palestinians(mostly sunnis and Assad is Shia Alawite) ) by giving them houses, water, food, and an escape from Israel(this was why syria was attacked) and all religions lived in peace under Assad. Turkey, Saudia Arbia, Jordan are all sunni countries but they have not said a world about the crimes committed by Israel on Palestinians(mostly sunnis), Syria and IRan are the two countries that say anything about that, with Syria taking in  Palestinians. Turkey, Saudia Arbia, Jordan are just terrorists countries that follow orders from the Zionists and now Turkey is going to be the biggest losers when the Kurds take half of Turkey and that idiot Erdogan is responsible for everything.

You are just an asshole prompting west lies, sunni's have lived under Assad and they have lived under Assad and thrived under Assad. And there sunnis that are fighting for Assad. You are just an asshole and you country Turkey is going to be the biggest loser, when the dust settles.

Assad is alawite. he isn´t muslim. Beside that he has no future. Syria is broken beyond repair, won´t have any relations with any powerful nation in the region as long he is in office, no trade and constant warfare.

Last time I checked alawite were Shias and Shias are Muslims. After world war 2 Germany and Japan were destroyed beyond repair and they recovered well. They will have relations with Iran and when the sanctions are lifted they will become powerfull.  

The entire generation of intelligent syrians has already run away. The nation is shattered. You say Assad gained power? Over what? A wreck?

When the Russia intervened in Syria more then 800,000 Syrians came back and the Syrians that are in other countries want to come back, it will take time but with Russian and Iranian help, Syria will become strong.

You call me a troll for what reason? Because i stand for my nation? Pretty funny. As i said russians are incapable to understand there are various interests.

You stand for a nation that has helped kill millions of Muslims while being a Muslim country it self, the Russian fully understand because they have their own interests

All religions lived in peace under assad? Lets just brush the Hama massacre with 40.000 dead sunni people under the rug?

What about the Millions of Muslims(not just Shia's but Muslims that Turkey has helped NATO kill).

This war is extremly costly for russia. For us its cheap.

When Russia arms the Kurds and the Kurds take half of Turkey then it will become costly for you.

Sure i know you are just some internet warrior and don´t know politics or diplomacy. But even russia knows it can´t hold Assad in power against the will of its most powerful neighbours.

The neighbours you call powerfull are just puppets of NATO and NATO itself is a paper tiger

You are incapable to tell me how you will try this.

Assad and Syria can only stabilize when they deal with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Jordan. Thats a basic fact.


Explain me how you will try this to achieve. I´m interested in you point of view regarding that. How will you bring my nation, saudi arabia, jordan, emirates ect together with Assad and make us to accept him? Because without that syria stays what it is, chaos.

auslander wrote:I don't know why you lads even reply to this clown. I presume you understand he is a developmentally challenged delayed pubescent threshold self abusing ambidextrous gomik who if he's ever had any can't remember which arm it's under but well remembers it was his 200 kilo face sitting aunt who traumatized him to the point he's sitting in his mommy's basement in Sasquach, West Virginia for the last decade and more.    

Mustafa wrote:Funny that a russian troll would call NATo a paper tiger, considering russias stoneage technology.


That said it amuses me to read delusional stuff from 3rd worlders here.

Russia and Iran will make syria prosper? Good luck. last time i checked both nations are shitholes.

par far wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Funny that a russian troll would call NATo a paper tiger, considering russias stoneage technology.


That said it amuses me to read delusional stuff from 3rd worlders here.

Russia and Iran will make syria prosper? Good luck. last time i checked both nations are shitholes.

"Russian stongeage technology", I am going to guess and say the last time you you checked Russian technology was probably 20 years ago, go educate yourself about modern Russian technology and NATO is a paper tiger, they are only good for attacking 3rd world amries.

The know shithole I know is Turkey, with all those homosexuals.    

Mustafa wrote:

par far wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Funny that a russian troll would call NATo a paper tiger, considering russias stoneage technology.


That said it amuses me to read delusional stuff from 3rd worlders here.

Russia and Iran will make syria prosper? Good luck. last time i checked both nations are shitholes.

"Russian stongeage technology", I am going to guess and say the last time you you checked Russian technology was probably 20 years ago, go educate yourself about modern Russian technology and NATO is a paper tiger, they are only good for attacking 3rd world amries.

The know shithole I know is Turkey, with all those homosexuals.    

show me russian quantum computers, recent breakthroughs in genetic research and component materials. Would like to know that stuff. You never hear about it.

And you say turkey is homosexul?

funny you wold say that while putin is openly gay

Mustafa wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:We dont need russia but  prefer good relations. If russia wants conflict with us, so be it.

Assad has no support in the sunni world. Its that easy. No sunni will ever live under this idiot. The rebellion is openly escalating and there plain and simply is no way back.

syria as a nation is dead. Its time to accept this. Wonder how russians imagine all this will work. Do they think we all off a sudden lose our face and start dealing with Assad? I would like to know this idea they have about this.

You don't need the biggest gas supplier in the world. Ok cool story kardas. Next on Israël has no support in the Sunni world either. They don't care. Syria as a Nation dead? You want to bet that Russia makes Turkey Die faster? They only need to arm the Kurds. Oh ang contrats, after invading Syria, you just invaded Iraq. Guess hiw yiu're going down? Fast.

Kurds are not even 13% of our population. Russia needs to arm kurds? Would be a shame if we arm turkic people in russia and caucasus region, wouldn´t it? Don´t play the terrorist card comrade. Russia is a fragile entity and believe me you don´t want go down that road.

And yes, we don´t need russia as gas supplier. We can switch to other suppliers.

As i said its up to you. I believe stable and friendly relations between turkey and russia are in russias interest as well.

Mustafa wrote:Its also funny how you call turkmen people "terrorists" by their ethnicity.

I give you a reality check. The turkmens will never, ever accept any government under Assad and most likely not even be part of a new "syrian" state.

flamming_python wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:We dont need russia but  prefer good relations. If russia wants conflict with us, so be it.

Assad has no support in the sunni world. Its that easy. No sunni will ever live under this idiot. The rebellion is openly escalating and there plain and simply is no way back.

syria as a nation is dead. Its time to accept this. Wonder how russians imagine all this will work. Do they think we all off a sudden lose our face and start dealing with Assad? I would like to know this idea they have about this.

You don't need the biggest gas supplier in the world. Ok cool story kardas. Next on Israël has no support in the Sunni world either. They don't care. Syria as a Nation dead? You want to bet that Russia makes Turkey Die faster? They only need to arm the Kurds. Oh ang contrats, after invading Syria, you just invaded Iraq. Guess hiw yiu're going down? Fast.

Kurds are not even 13% of our population. Russia needs to arm kurds? Would be a shame if we arm turkic people in russia and caucasus region, wouldn´t it? Don´t play the terrorist card comrade. Russia is a fragile entity and believe me you don´t want go down that road.

And yes, we don´t need russia as gas supplier. We can switch to other suppliers.

As i said its up to you. I believe stable and friendly relations between turkey and russia are in russias interest as well.

Why would Turkic people in Russia and the Caucasus region want to accept arms from Turkey? And for what purpose? There are no active separatist movements among them.
You call Russia a fragile entity; but you do not live here, and you do not know the society here. Ever since the start of the Ukrainian mess, and continuing now - I've never seen Russian society so united before. Slavs, Turkics, Asians, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists - we all live in the same state and no-one wants to see it destroyed.
Russia is not fragile, it is internally united and cohesive, at least for this generation; who knows what the next generations will bring.

Moreover, how will Turkey get the arms there? Russian Border Guards and their parent agency - the FSB, are quite efficient government agencies. They have Russia's border on tight surveillance, especially now for what concerns Turkey. Any clandestine smuggling rings that attempt to smuggle weapons to certain groups in the country will be detected, raided and arrested.
This isn't the Syrian border you know.
The only possible place that Turkey can create problems for Russia - is in Central Asia; where the governments are weaker and it would be possible for Turkey to support all sorts of shady and clandestine groups, to try and erode Russian influence in the region, or overthrow pro-Russian governments.

Turkey on the other hand; has little control over what weapons make their way to the Kurds fighting on its territory. All it takes, is to give weapons to the Syrian Kurds - who've hated the Turks ever since Kobane - and these weapons will make their way to the PKK. I'm sure that in Iraqi Kurdistan there are many who sympathise with the PKK too and who would want to help them; despite their decent official relations with Turkey.
Russia doesn't even have to do much of anything - other than give the Syrian Kurds and the Iraqi Kurds weapons and equipment. They themselves will do the rest. And Russia will be able to claim no knowledge of anything; because these groups have a legitimate need for weapons and that is to fight against ISIL.

I don't want Russia to go down this route, but it's you who brought this stupid idea up, about trying to break apart each others countries. I'm just throwing some cold water on your idea. Turkey is a lot more 'fragile' than Russia - there are cities in South-Eastern Turkey, where Turkish soldiers are not even welcomed and are surrounded and threatened. There are videos of such. Show me where this happens in Russia?

Mustafa wrote:Its also funny how you call turkmen people "terrorists" by their ethnicity.

I didn't call Turkmen people terrorists.

I said that Turkey calls terrorist people 'Turkmen'. It's their new name for them. Before it was 'FSA', and before that 'opposition'.

I give you a reality check. The turkmens will never, ever accept any government under Assad and most likely not even be part of a new "syrian" state.

Then ask them, because I'm not interested in the opinion of Islamic terrorist groups that co-operate with Al-Nusra and behead dead pilots.

Show me where Russia is killing Turkmen - Turkmen civilians. And show me where they are against Assad, and where they explain why they're against him.

flamming_python wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:We dont need russia but  prefer good relations. If russia wants conflict with us, so be it.

Assad has no support in the sunni world. Its that easy. No sunni will ever live under this idiot. The rebellion is openly escalating and there plain and simply is no way back.

syria as a nation is dead. Its time to accept this. Wonder how russians imagine all this will work. Do they think we all off a sudden lose our face and start dealing with Assad? I would like to know this idea they have about this.

You don't need the biggest gas supplier in the world. Ok cool story kardas. Next on Israël has no support in the Sunni world either. They don't care. Syria as a Nation dead? You want to bet that Russia makes Turkey Die faster? They only need to arm the Kurds. Oh ang contrats, after invading Syria, you just invaded Iraq. Guess hiw yiu're going down? Fast.

Kurds are not even 13% of our population. Russia needs to arm kurds? Would be a shame if we arm turkic people in russia and caucasus region, wouldn´t it? Don´t play the terrorist card comrade. Russia is a fragile entity and believe me you don´t want go down that road.

And yes, we don´t need russia as gas supplier. We can switch to other suppliers.

As i said its up to you. I believe stable and friendly relations between turkey and russia are in russias interest as well.

Why would Turkic people in Russia and the Caucasus region want to accept arms from Turkey? And for what purpose? There are no active separatist movements among them.
You call Russia a fragile entity; but you do not live here, and you do not know the society here. Ever since the start of the Ukrainian mess, and continuing now - I've never seen Russian society so united before. Slavs, Turkics, Asians, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists - we all live in the same state and no-one wants to see it destroyed.
Russia is not fragile, it is internally united and cohesive, at least for this generation; who knows what the next generations will bring.

Moreover, how will Turkey get the arms there? Russian Border Guards and their parent agency - the FSB, are quite efficient government agencies. They have Russia's border on tight surveillance, especially now for what concerns Turkey. Any clandestine smuggling rings that attempt to smuggle weapons to certain groups in the country will be detected, raided and arrested.
This isn't the Syrian border you know.
The only possible place that Turkey can create problems for Russia - is in Central Asia; where the governments are weaker and it would be possible for Turkey to support all sorts of shady and clandestine groups, to try and erode Russian influence in the region, or overthrow pro-Russian governments.

Turkey on the other hand; has little control over what weapons make their way to the Kurds fighting on its territory. All it takes, is to give weapons to the Syrian Kurds - who've hated the Turks ever since Kobane - and these weapons will make their way to the PKK. I'm sure that in Iraqi Kurdistan there are many who sympathise with the PKK too and who would want to help them; despite their decent official relations with Turkey.
Russia doesn't even have to do much of anything - other than give the Syrian Kurds and the Iraqi Kurds weapons and equipment. They themselves will do the rest. And Russia will be able to claim no knowledge of anything; because these groups have a legitimate need for weapons and that is to fight against ISIL.

I don't want Russia to go down this route, but it's you who brought this stupid idea up, about trying to break apart each others countries. I'm just throwing some cold water on your idea. Turkey is a lot more 'fragile' than Russia - there are cities in South-Eastern Turkey, where Turkish soldiers are not even welcomed and are surrounded and threatened. There are videos of such. Show me where this happens in Russia?

Mustafa wrote:Its also funny how you call turkmen people "terrorists" by their ethnicity.

I didn't call Turkmen people terrorists.

I said that Turkey calls terrorist people 'Turkmen'. It's their new name for them. Before it was 'FSA', and before that 'opposition'.

I give you a reality check. The turkmens will never, ever accept any government under Assad and most likely not even be part of a new "syrian" state.

Then ask them, because I'm not interested in the opinion of Islamic terrorist groups that co-operate with Al-Nusra and behead dead pilots.

Show me where Russia is killing Turkmen - Turkmen civilians. And show me where they are against Assad, and where they explain why they're against him.

Mustafa wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:We dont need russia but  prefer good relations. If russia wants conflict with us, so be it.

Assad has no support in the sunni world. Its that easy. No sunni will ever live under this idiot. The rebellion is openly escalating and there plain and simply is no way back.

syria as a nation is dead. Its time to accept this. Wonder how russians imagine all this will work. Do they think we all off a sudden lose our face and start dealing with Assad? I would like to know this idea they have about this.

You don't need the biggest gas supplier in the world. Ok cool story kardas. Next on Israël has no support in the Sunni world either. They don't care. Syria as a Nation dead? You want to bet that Russia makes Turkey Die faster? They only need to arm the Kurds. Oh ang contrats, after invading Syria, you just invaded Iraq. Guess hiw yiu're going down? Fast.

Kurds are not even 13% of our population. Russia needs to arm kurds? Would be a shame if we arm turkic people in russia and caucasus region, wouldn´t it? Don´t play the terrorist card comrade. Russia is a fragile entity and believe me you don´t want go down that road.

And yes, we don´t need russia as gas supplier. We can switch to other suppliers.

As i said its up to you. I believe stable and friendly relations between turkey and russia are in russias interest as well.

Why would Turkic people in Russia and the Caucasus region want to accept arms from Turkey? And for what purpose? There are no active separatist movements among them.
You call Russia a fragile entity; but you do not live here, and you do not know the society here. Ever since the start of the Ukrainian mess, and continuing now - I've never seen Russian society so united before. Slavs, Turkics, Asians, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists - we all live in the same state and no-one wants to see it destroyed.
Russia is not fragile, it is internally united and cohesive, at least for this generation; who knows what the next generations will bring.

Moreover, how will Turkey get the arms there? Russian Border Guards and their parent agency - the FSB, are quite efficient government agencies. They have Russia's border on tight surveillance, especially now for what concerns Turkey. Any clandestine smuggling rings that attempt to smuggle weapons to certain groups in the country will be detected, raided and arrested.
This isn't the Syrian border you know.
The only possible place that Turkey can create problems for Russia - is in Central Asia; where the governments are weaker and it would be possible for Turkey to support all sorts of shady and clandestine groups, to try and erode Russian influence in the region, or overthrow pro-Russian governments.

Turkey on the other hand; has little control over what weapons make their way to the Kurds fighting on its territory. All it takes, is to give weapons to the Syrian Kurds - who've hated the Turks ever since Kobane - and these weapons will make their way to the PKK. I'm sure that in Iraqi Kurdistan there are many who sympathise with the PKK too and who would want to help them; despite their decent official relations with Turkey.
Russia doesn't even have to do much of anything - other than give the Syrian Kurds and the Iraqi Kurds weapons and equipment. They themselves will do the rest. And Russia will be able to claim no knowledge of anything; because these groups have a legitimate need for weapons and that is to fight against ISIL.

I don't want Russia to go down this route, but it's you who brought this stupid idea up, about trying to break apart each others countries. I'm just throwing some cold water on your idea. Turkey is a lot more 'fragile' than Russia - there are cities in South-Eastern Turkey, where Turkish soldiers are not even welcomed and are surrounded and threatened. There are videos of such. Show me where this happens in Russia?

Mustafa wrote:Its also funny how you call turkmen people "terrorists" by their ethnicity.

I didn't call Turkmen people terrorists.

I said that Turkey calls terrorist people 'Turkmen'. It's their new name for them. Before it was 'FSA', and before that 'opposition'.

I give you a reality check. The turkmens will never, ever accept any government under Assad and most likely not even be part of a new "syrian" state.

Then ask them, because I'm not interested in the opinion of Islamic terrorist groups that co-operate with Al-Nusra and behead dead pilots.

Show me where Russia is killing Turkmen - Turkmen civilians. And show me where they are against Assad, and where they explain why they're against him.

Not you personal, but some morons here suggested genocide on turkmen people. As for arming kurds. You really want give us a reason to deal with them once and for all?

Thats exactly the reason why i believe russia should seek a far more friendly course with us. We are here to stay. God made us neighbous. We beter sort this out and act friendly with each other.

“Finally, our colleagues from the State Department and the Pentagon have confirmed that the photo-proof, which we presented at a briefing [on December 2], of the origin and destination of the stolen oil, coming from the areas controlled by the terrorists, is authentic,” Major General Igor Konashenkov, a Defense Ministry spokesman, told a media briefing on Saturday.

“However, the US claim that they ‘don’t see the border crossings with tanker trucks crossing the border,’ raises a smile, if only, because the photos are still images,” he added.

In response to Moscow accusations that Turkey is involved in oil trade with the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorist group, US officials claimed that the volume of oil smuggled from IS-controlled territories is too insignificant to interest government officials.

At the same time, the US confirmed that oil trade between Islamic State and some buyers on Turkish territory does exist, as its officials admitted that small amounts of oil could, in fact, be crossing the Turkish-Syrian border in tanker trucks, though they claimed the volume is “of no significance.”

The Turkish opposition has given the country's leader a cold shower, telling President Erdogan to heat his palace with dung instead of gas after he stated that Turkish people are used to suffering and can do without Russian supplies (...)

“The people of this country have suffered enough,” the leader of the minority opposition Nationalist Movement Party (MHP), Devlet Bahceli, wrote on Twitter. “From now on, the presidential palace must be heated by burning dried cow dung in stoves. It's easy to talk, go ahead and share the people's suffering,” Bahceli said, addressing President Erdogan.

Mustafa wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:We dont need russia but  prefer good relations. If russia wants conflict with us, so be it.

Assad has no support in the sunni world. Its that easy. No sunni will ever live under this idiot. The rebellion is openly escalating and there plain and simply is no way back.

syria as a nation is dead. Its time to accept this. Wonder how russians imagine all this will work. Do they think we all off a sudden lose our face and start dealing with Assad? I would like to know this idea they have about this.

You don't need the biggest gas supplier in the world. Ok cool story kardas. Next on Israël has no support in the Sunni world either. They don't care. Syria as a Nation dead? You want to bet that Russia makes Turkey Die faster? They only need to arm the Kurds. Oh ang contrats, after invading Syria, you just invaded Iraq. Guess hiw yiu're going down? Fast.

Kurds are not even 13% of our population. Russia needs to arm kurds? Would be a shame if we arm turkic people in russia and caucasus region, wouldn´t it? Don´t play the terrorist card comrade. Russia is a fragile entity and believe me you don´t want go down that road.

And yes, we don´t need russia as gas supplier. We can switch to other suppliers.

As i said its up to you. I believe stable and friendly relations between turkey and russia are in russias interest as well.

Mustafa wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:We dont need russia but  prefer good relations. If russia wants conflict with us, so be it.

Assad has no support in the sunni world. Its that easy. No sunni will ever live under this idiot. The rebellion is openly escalating and there plain and simply is no way back.

syria as a nation is dead. Its time to accept this. Wonder how russians imagine all this will work. Do they think we all off a sudden lose our face and start dealing with Assad? I would like to know this idea they have about this.

You don't need the biggest gas supplier in the world. Ok cool story kardas. Next on Israël has no support in the Sunni world either. They don't care. Syria as a Nation dead? You want to bet that Russia makes Turkey Die faster? They only need to arm the Kurds. Oh ang contrats, after invading Syria, you just invaded Iraq. Guess hiw yiu're going down? Fast.

Kurds are not even 13% of our population. Russia needs to arm kurds? Would be a shame if we arm turkic people in russia and caucasus region, wouldn´t it? Don´t play the terrorist card comrade. Russia is a fragile entity and believe me you don´t want go down that road.

And yes, we don´t need russia as gas supplier. We can switch to other suppliers.

As i said its up to you. I believe stable and friendly relations between turkey and russia are in russias interest as well.

Why would Turkic people in Russia and the Caucasus region want to accept arms from Turkey? And for what purpose? There are no active separatist movements among them.
You call Russia a fragile entity; but you do not live here, and you do not know the society here. Ever since the start of the Ukrainian mess, and continuing now - I've never seen Russian society so united before. Slavs, Turkics, Asians, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists - we all live in the same state and no-one wants to see it destroyed.
Russia is not fragile, it is internally united and cohesive, at least for this generation; who knows what the next generations will bring.

Moreover, how will Turkey get the arms there? Russian Border Guards and their parent agency - the FSB, are quite efficient government agencies. They have Russia's border on tight surveillance, especially now for what concerns Turkey. Any clandestine smuggling rings that attempt to smuggle weapons to certain groups in the country will be detected, raided and arrested.
This isn't the Syrian border you know.
The only possible place that Turkey can create problems for Russia - is in Central Asia; where the governments are weaker and it would be possible for Turkey to support all sorts of shady and clandestine groups, to try and erode Russian influence in the region, or overthrow pro-Russian governments.

Turkey on the other hand; has little control over what weapons make their way to the Kurds fighting on its territory. All it takes, is to give weapons to the Syrian Kurds - who've hated the Turks ever since Kobane - and these weapons will make their way to the PKK. I'm sure that in Iraqi Kurdistan there are many who sympathise with the PKK too and who would want to help them; despite their decent official relations with Turkey.
Russia doesn't even have to do much of anything - other than give the Syrian Kurds and the Iraqi Kurds weapons and equipment. They themselves will do the rest. And Russia will be able to claim no knowledge of anything; because these groups have a legitimate need for weapons and that is to fight against ISIL.

I don't want Russia to go down this route, but it's you who brought this stupid idea up, about trying to break apart each others countries. I'm just throwing some cold water on your idea. Turkey is a lot more 'fragile' than Russia - there are cities in South-Eastern Turkey, where Turkish soldiers are not even welcomed and are surrounded and threatened. There are videos of such. Show me where this happens in Russia?

Mustafa wrote:Its also funny how you call turkmen people "terrorists" by their ethnicity.

I didn't call Turkmen people terrorists.

I said that Turkey calls terrorist people 'Turkmen'. It's their new name for them. Before it was 'FSA', and before that 'opposition'.

I give you a reality check. The turkmens will never, ever accept any government under Assad and most likely not even be part of a new "syrian" state.

Then ask them, because I'm not interested in the opinion of Islamic terrorist groups that co-operate with Al-Nusra and behead dead pilots.

Show me where Russia is killing Turkmen - Turkmen civilians. And show me where they are against Assad, and where they explain why they're against him.

Not you personal, but some morons here suggested genocide on turkmen people. As for arming kurds. You really want give us a reason to deal with them once and for all?

Thats exactly the reason why i believe russia should seek a far more friendly course with us. We are here to stay. God made us neighbous. We beter sort this out and act friendly with each other.