Russia - UAE military deals:

Sputniknews in Portuguese says Russia will supply new automatic artillery turret to the UAE. The new Russian turret AU-220M will be combined with a local modular APC, probably 8x8 Enigma. The contract was signed today, Wednesday 25 at IDEX 2015, just after UAE signing an arms deal with the Ukie junta.

Regarding the UAE contract with the Ukraine puppets, is it clear if UAE is BUYING something or actually SELLING to them, and if UAE does sell to them, what is it? Thanks.

mack8 wrote:Regarding the UAE contract with the Ukraine puppets, is it clear if UAE is BUYING something or actually SELLING to them, and if UAE does sell to them, what is it? Thanks.

It'll most likely be 'United-40' UCAV which is what Ukraine lacks, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimr

iraqidabab wrote:

mack8 wrote:Regarding the UAE contract with the Ukraine puppets, is it clear if UAE is BUYING something or actually SELLING to them, and if UAE does sell to them, what is it? Thanks.

It'll most likely be 'United-40' UCAV which is what Ukraine lacks, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimr

Dont think Poroshenko would travel all the way to UAE for peanuts. Suspect it's a 3 party deal, with the US involved behind the scenes.

mack8 wrote:Regarding the UAE contract with the Ukraine puppets, is it clear if UAE is BUYING something or actually SELLING to them, and if UAE does sell to them, what is it? Thanks.

Ukies are getting something, UA Defense Minister put out a statement to that effect, along with some ramblings about how it's gonna be a way for the UAE to get back at Russia (and this at the very same arms show where Russia displayed hundreds of pieces of its newest equipment and secured sales to that very same UAE).

Ukraine continues to buy with no money
Russia continues to sell and business as usual despite its 'isolation'

I think that about sums up the whole thing really.

Kyo wrote:Sputniknews in Portuguese says Russia will supply new automatic artillery turret to the UAE. The new Russian turret AU-220M will be combined with a local modular APC, probably 8x8 Enigma. The contract was signed today, Wednesday 25 at IDEX 2015, just after UAE signing an arms deal with the Ukie junta.

Or it could be that that Franco-Russian APC deal is still going ahead, only the French side seems to have gotten reeeeal quiet about it (but is still doing it )

Money talks, BS walks as they say.

flamming_python wrote:

Kyo wrote:Sputniknews in Portuguese says Russia will supply new automatic artillery turret to the UAE. The new Russian turret AU-220M will be combined with a local modular APC, probably 8x8 Enigma. The contract was signed today, Wednesday 25 at IDEX 2015, just after UAE signing an arms deal with the Ukie junta.

Or it could be that that Franco-Russian APC deal is still going ahead, only the French side seems to have gotten reeeeal quiet about it (but is still doing it )

Money talks, BS walks as they say.

Nobody has ordered ATOM though, so there isn't exactly much money.

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150225/1018746423.html

flamming_python wrote:

Kyo wrote:Sputniknews in Portuguese says Russia will supply new automatic artillery turret to the UAE. The new Russian turret AU-220M will be combined with a local modular APC, probably 8x8 Enigma. The contract was signed today, Wednesday 25 at IDEX 2015, just after UAE signing an arms deal with the Ukie junta.

Or it could be that that Franco-Russian APC deal is still going ahead, only the French side seems to have gotten reeeeal quiet about it (but is still doing it )

If the UAE is going ahead with the Lazar II-derived Enigma as seems the case, I don't see how "ATOM" fits into the picture anymore...
UAE middleman/integrator could easily facilitate sanctions bypass if they wanted, but that looks defunct now.  Time will tell.
EDIT: Saudi funded arms for Lebanon is supposedly specified to be spent on French kit, ATOM w/ Rus. turret might qualify there?

BMP-3 for UAE...not sure if new ones or upgrades of existing ones




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Russia, UAE to Sign Contract on Unique Khrizantema-S Antitank Systems Sales

Russia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are set to sign a contract on the delivery of Russia’s unique self-propelled antitank system Khrizantema-S; pre-contractual works are currently underway, according to the chief designer of the company which developed the weapons.

“Why has Khrizantema-S attracted the attention of our Emirati colleagues? It’s the world’s only antitank system capable of finding targets without optical visibility and destroying tanks of any type, including advanced models with dynamic armor,” explained Valery Kashin, the Kolomna Instrument Manufacturing Design Bureau's chief designer. The Bureau, located near Moscow, developed and manufactured the system.

The unique Russian self-propelled antitank system Khrizantema-S was one of the main exhibits at the international defense exhibition IDEX-2015 in February in Abu Dhabi and was then presented to the higher leadership of the UAE during the part of the program which was closed to the public.

“They have expressed an interest in the system and the pre-contractual work is currently underway,” added Kashin.

The Khrizantema-S self-propelled anti-tank system is installed on the tracked chassis of the new BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle. This solution was enabled by unifying various components and assemblies to reduce the cost of production and subsequent operation of the machine, to improve its maneuverability, mobility, and ability to overcome floating obstacles.

The missile system can easily move at a speed of 45 kilometers per hour over rough terrain. On highways, it has a top speed of 70 kilometers per hour. It has the capacity to travel up to 600 kilometers without refueling. Importantly, the Khrizantema-S can transition incredibly fast from a marching to a combat state.

As soldiers joke, the Khrizantema can “bloom” in twenty seconds.

Today, Khrizantema-S is the world's only anti-tank missile system capable of detecting and destroying targets without optical visibility in smoke, fog, and snow, as well as at any time of the day, thanks to its radar and optical laser channels. The simultaneous operation of two channels allows technicians to track two targets and launch rockets automatically.

The Khrizantema-S system is equipped with a unique radar system. The locator creates an invisible radio beam which is accurate to the millimeter. When the beam finds its target and the rocket launches, the strike is inevitable. Radio beam guidance is carried out without operator intervention.

The 15 missiles in the system’s ammunition supply come in two varieties: antitank missiles with shaped-charge warheads or high-explosive antitank missiles. The system can destroy armored vehicles including tanks; engineering structures; low-flying, low-speed air targets; boats and tonnage ships; and enemy forces (in shelters and in the open field) at a distance of up to 6 km.

According to the Instrument Manufacturing Design Bureau's estimates, a battery of three Khrizantema-S military vehicles is equipped to repel 14 attacking tanks, destroying at least 60% of the advancing company. A high-explosive warhead incorporated into the missile system will further expand its application.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20150617/1023460156.html#ixzz3dJw1Gyx4

Russia signs deal on supply of fighting vehicle combat modules to United Arab Emirates

Russian-made AU-220M combat modules will be mounted on UAE-produced infantry fighting vehicles

NIZHNY TAGIL, September 11. /TASS/. The United Arab Emirates will receive several hundred Russian-made AU-220M combat modules for its domestically-produced infantry fighting vehicles, Uralvagonzavod Director General Oleg Siyenko told TASS on Friday.

"We have made progress, we have decided on the volume of delivery, and UAE leaders supervise the issue. They and we have a program [to fulfil]; I would not mention the number [of modules to be ordered], but it is hundreds," Siyenko said at the Russia Arms Expo 2015 show.

According to Siyenko, the contract paperwork has been completed, and now it is just the matter of time. "There is just the symbiosis: they have a chassis and we have a turret. The situation is ideal for them, because our naval gun has a range of 12 km, and long range matters much in desert," the manufacturer’s director general added.

The memorandum of understanding on mounting the AU-220M fighting module on Arab 8x8 armored vehicle Enigma was signed in February at the IDEX 2015 show in Abu Dhabi.

According to Georgy Zakamennykh, director general of the Burevestnik research institute (a subsidiary of Uralvagonzavod), the Russian-UAE joint program on the AU-220M module is on schedule. The UAE is going to introduce minor changes to the design and equipment of the AU-220M. "There have been no radical changes, just minor modifications to the characteristics," Zakamennykh said, "in particular, those to the mating of the chassis and fighting module and to the location and composition of the sighting system, instruments and control panels."

He said the UAE had decided to retain the main armament of the module - a 57-mm gun. At the same time, the UAE requested the Au-220M be furnished with antitank missiles, after it had taken an interest in Russian-made AT missile systems, particularly, the Kornet-D.

The AU-220M is an upgraded variant of the A-220 naval gun designed by Burevestnik for both tracked and wheeled chasses. Its main armament is a 57-mm gun and an auxiliary weapon is a 7.62-mm machinegun.

Nice !!! New 5 generation fighter to be designed by russia for the UAE based on mig-29/35

https://sputniknews.com/military/201702201050859678-russia-uae-5th-generation-jet/

Isos wrote:Nice !!! New 5 generation fighter to be designed by russia for the UAE based on mig-29/35

https://sputniknews.com/military/201702201050859678-russia-uae-5th-generation-jet/

Interesting.

Looks like this might solve Russia's 5th-gen light fighter problem earlier and cheaper than expected.

Some interesting geopolitical subtexts might be glimpsed as well...

Isos wrote:Nice !!! New 5 generation fighter to be designed by russia for the UAE based on mig-29/35

https://sputniknews.com/military/201702201050859678-russia-uae-5th-generation-jet/

Well UAE are famous for bying weapons basically everywhere and that wouldnt be first project they funded for Russia.

Militarov wrote:

Isos wrote:Nice !!! New 5 generation fighter to be designed by russia for the UAE based on mig-29/35

https://sputniknews.com/military/201702201050859678-russia-uae-5th-generation-jet/

Well UAE are famous for bying weapons basically everywhere and that wouldnt be first project they funded for Russia.

They use the money they have untill US export them "freedom and democracy"

They're also testing the T90MS along with the Kuwaitis. And there's been talk of a battalion ordered not later than last week.

Also is not only money that changes the outcomes. It is also the markers for purchase and the specs. What is good for the Russian forces can be either OTT or Sub Par for other forces. The range issue is one that the MS has totally OTT'ed for the Kuwaiti testing because of LoS being way above the typical range in Europe. Some other specs (AC/FLIR etc) were also typical for foreign sales (India, UAE, Venezuela). Same for the Mi28 dual commands for instance was something the Iraqis were pushing and that Russia found out actually very useful.

Cooperation is not just about money it is also about cross-servicing. This is something the Soviet Union wasn't exactly known for, because they did things a certain way and it was enough.

What's interesting is that meaddle east countries are more and more buying from europe or russia and since the US have enough oïl in their own ground they buy less from them. And the Trump administration won't change that for sure. They are either affraid of USA or they don't trust them enough for their defence, especialy if they have to counter Israeli US made weapons which are for sure better than those they sell to Arabs.

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The Special Design Bureau for Machine Building (SKBM)'s Sergey Abdulov said the UAE is interested in procuring more BMP-3 IFVs (they've received ~900), and that SKBM will offer a modernized version based off experiences in "hot spots" (Syria, Yemen). 9/

https://tass.com/defense/1068360

UAE, Saudi navies eye Russian-made Gepard frigate, Karakurt-class missile corvettes

Isos wrote:https://tass.com/defense/1068360

UAE, Saudi navies eye Russian-made Gepard frigate, Karakurt-class missile corvettes

Gepard uses Ukrainian engines so there would be same nonsense as with Indian contract

I am bit surprised about Karakurts, they do fit with UAE geography but I thought they already have required products available from elsewhere

PapaDragon wrote:

Isos wrote:https://tass.com/defense/1068360

UAE, Saudi navies eye Russian-made Gepard frigate, Karakurt-class missile corvettes

Gepard uses Ukrainian engines so there would be same nonsense as with Indian contract

I am bit surprised about Karakurts, they do fit with UAE geography but I thought they already have required products available from elsewhere

As you already know the GCC use weapon contracts as glorified bribes for political favors, it's one of the reasons why Russia isn't more hostile towards them (despite the obvious reasons why they should). The GCC were smart to not follow the EU example, because god forbid if they were as explicitly Russophobic like their Europoodle counter parts (the GCC, especially the SaudiMights, are ripe for color revolutions of their own).