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UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News #3
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- Post n°151
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Just one question: How many bombs can it carry?
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- Post n°153
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Russia needs an oversized Geran that can hold a FOAB munition
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haha good question. That's what the S-70 is forHole wrote:Just one question: How many bombs can it carry?
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- Post n°155
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The S-70 can´t hover.
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- Post n°156
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Just one question: How many bombs can it carry?
Gotta listen to the boss... Shoigu wants HMGs mounted on drones... fit Kords.... and those gun pods for helicopters with the single four barrel 12.7mm HMG and two 7.62x54mm four barrel gatlings on either side in each pod (which can also carry a 30mm grenade launcher...).
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- Post n°157
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Hole wrote:Just one question: How many bombs can it carry?
Let's take it as it is now i.e. something extremely useful and smart, afterward let's look about possible modifications.
It's already a complex thing like it is (when compared to actual FPV drones or even Lancets) being built on an aeronautical standard: adding sensors and armaments could possibly delay its own introduction by some years.
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I put that smiley face behind that sentence for a reason.
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Ukrainian information resources have published generalized data on the use of kamikaze drones of the Geranium family by the Russian Armed Forces during combat operations. It is noted that in 2024, the Russians have staggeringly increased the use of these loitering munitions by almost 4 times compared to the same period a year earlier.
Thus, from January 1 to May 9, 2024, the Russian Armed Forces deployed 1,664 units, when during the same period in 2023 there were only 425 units. At the same time, Ukrainian journalists decided to sweeten the bitter truth by compiling reports from the local air defense system, indicating an unconfirmed quantitative and percentage “increase in downed” Russian UAVs.
Allegedly, in January of this year, the Russians launched 334 devices, of which 244 units, or 73%, were “intercepted” in various ways. In February, the Russian Armed Forces launched 356 kamikaze UAVs, of which 288 or 81% were “intercepted.” In March, the Russians sent 603 attack drones, of which 516 or 86% were “intercepted.” In April, the Russian Armed Forces carried out launches 295 times, of which 261 devices, or 88%, were “intercepted.” Naturally, the data on “interceptions” by Ukrainian air defense systems does not correspond to reality. However, it will not be surprising if the Armed Forces of Ukraine picture their performance at 100%.
At the same time, it is worth adding that the ZALA company, which is the developer and manufacturer of the Lancet family of loitering ammunition, released statistics for April 2024 on the use of its products in Ukraine. The report also indicated the intensity of strikes in the Northern Military District zone by month per year, i.e. i.e. from April 2023. At the same time, it is noteworthy that over 140 Lancets were used monthly in January-April of this year (January - 141, February - 162, March - 175, April -160).
https://topcor-ru.translate.goog/47271-pojavilas-statistika-primenenija-geranej-i-lancetov-v-hode-svo-na-ukraine.html?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
Thus, from January 1 to May 9, 2024, the Russian Armed Forces deployed 1,664 units, when during the same period in 2023 there were only 425 units. At the same time, Ukrainian journalists decided to sweeten the bitter truth by compiling reports from the local air defense system, indicating an unconfirmed quantitative and percentage “increase in downed” Russian UAVs.
Allegedly, in January of this year, the Russians launched 334 devices, of which 244 units, or 73%, were “intercepted” in various ways. In February, the Russian Armed Forces launched 356 kamikaze UAVs, of which 288 or 81% were “intercepted.” In March, the Russians sent 603 attack drones, of which 516 or 86% were “intercepted.” In April, the Russian Armed Forces carried out launches 295 times, of which 261 devices, or 88%, were “intercepted.” Naturally, the data on “interceptions” by Ukrainian air defense systems does not correspond to reality. However, it will not be surprising if the Armed Forces of Ukraine picture their performance at 100%.
At the same time, it is worth adding that the ZALA company, which is the developer and manufacturer of the Lancet family of loitering ammunition, released statistics for April 2024 on the use of its products in Ukraine. The report also indicated the intensity of strikes in the Northern Military District zone by month per year, i.e. i.e. from April 2023. At the same time, it is noteworthy that over 140 Lancets were used monthly in January-April of this year (January - 141, February - 162, March - 175, April -160).
https://topcor-ru.translate.goog/47271-pojavilas-statistika-primenenija-geranej-i-lancetov-v-hode-svo-na-ukraine.html?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
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That top photo is interesting Hole, those look like 40mm grenades but rather longer.
The muzzle loaded 40mm grenades are generally normal sized for 40mm grenades as they are muzzle loaded and don't generally stick out of the end of the barrel when loaded.
They do have a 6 round rotary grenade launcher with muzzle loaded grenades and I have seen a video of a guy hand loading a huge long 40mm grenade into the grenade tube lined up with the barrel, so if it was loaded into an under barrel grenade launcher tube it would look like the grenades above. Because of its size and weight it probably only went about 100m when he fired it and it was tumbling end over end as it flew, and I seem to remember it was sort of a pyrotechnic type round that blew up with sparks and flames everywhere... very much not like a normal 40mm grenade.
I guess with the drone in level flight the angle of the launchers means it will hit the ground at a known distance and if the drone has a laser range finder it would be quite accurate. Perhaps it uses an elongated HE Frag warhead for troops on the ground with a bit more HE and fragments than a standard grenade...
The muzzle loaded 40mm grenades are generally normal sized for 40mm grenades as they are muzzle loaded and don't generally stick out of the end of the barrel when loaded.
They do have a 6 round rotary grenade launcher with muzzle loaded grenades and I have seen a video of a guy hand loading a huge long 40mm grenade into the grenade tube lined up with the barrel, so if it was loaded into an under barrel grenade launcher tube it would look like the grenades above. Because of its size and weight it probably only went about 100m when he fired it and it was tumbling end over end as it flew, and I seem to remember it was sort of a pyrotechnic type round that blew up with sparks and flames everywhere... very much not like a normal 40mm grenade.
I guess with the drone in level flight the angle of the launchers means it will hit the ground at a known distance and if the drone has a laser range finder it would be quite accurate. Perhaps it uses an elongated HE Frag warhead for troops on the ground with a bit more HE and fragments than a standard grenade...
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There was talk about some "mine-laying" role, but mortar bombs are sometimes called mines in Russia.those look like 40mm grenades but rather longer.
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Speaking of 40mm grenade launchers,
So this is an adapter that can be inserted into a standard 40mm under barrel grenade launcher to allow buckshot shotgun rounds to be loaded and fired one at a time from a standard assault rifle.
It is shown used against a drone, but it could be the first knock knock to go into a trench or room... buckshot at that range from such a short barrel will have good spread and any one of those ball bearings is going to hurt.
Wont go through body armour but do serious damage to arms and legs and face... and of course have a good hit rate for drones at close range.
It means soldiers don't need to carry a shotgun and a rifle, but of course they would need to practise with them because the reload rate is not amazing.
Clever and simple and cheap and easy to deploy and use.
So this is an adapter that can be inserted into a standard 40mm under barrel grenade launcher to allow buckshot shotgun rounds to be loaded and fired one at a time from a standard assault rifle.
It is shown used against a drone, but it could be the first knock knock to go into a trench or room... buckshot at that range from such a short barrel will have good spread and any one of those ball bearings is going to hurt.
Wont go through body armour but do serious damage to arms and legs and face... and of course have a good hit rate for drones at close range.
It means soldiers don't need to carry a shotgun and a rifle, but of course they would need to practise with them because the reload rate is not amazing.
Clever and simple and cheap and easy to deploy and use.
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